Was Gary Denbo the cause of the Jays limp lumber?
I agree with the Drunks and enjoy Mike Wilner's take on the Blue Jays. I do not always agree with him but that has never been a prerequisite for my being a fan of somebody's work.
If you don't know who Wilner is--he hosts JaysTalk on the FAN 590 and is part of the Blue Jays’ criminally underrated radio team that includes Jerry Howarth and Alan Ashby. Before Ashby, there was the unforgettable Tom Cheek (RIP) who uttered the memorable call “Touch ‘em all Joe! You’ll never hit a bigger home run in your life!!”
We miss you Tom. I had the privilege of meeting both he and Jerry Howarth (albeit on separate occasions) once and one day I may to a post about it. Suffice it to say, Cheek was a towering figure--at least 6’6” and maybe 6’7”.
But I’m digressing ... again.
Obviously, I read Wilner’s blog and in the comments section I founding this gem (I have added a bit):
Year BA OBP SLG
1996: .288/.360/.436 5.38 R/G 100 OPS+
1997: .287/.362/.436 5.50 R/G 108 OPS+
1998: .288/.362/.460 5.96 R/G 117 OPS+
1999: .282/.364/.453 5.56 R/G 110 OPS+
2000: .277/.354/.450 5.41 R/G 104 OPS+
2001: .267/.334/.435 4.99 R/G 100 OPS+
2002: .275/.354/.455 5.57 R/G 114 OPS+
2003: .271/.356/.453 5.38 R/G 115 OPS+
2004: .268/.353/.458 5.54 R/G 112 OPS+
2005: .276/.355/.450 5.47 R/G 115 OPS+
2006: .285/.363/.461 5.74 R/G 112 OPS+
2007: .290/.366/.463 5.98 R/G 118 OPS+
These are the offensive totals for the New York Yankees. Now find the year with the lowest SLG, the lowest R/G, the lowest BA/OBP and the lowest OPS+.
Found it? Yup--all came in 2001.
While they won the pennant that year, league average for hitting with runners in scoring position (RISP) was .268/.351/.421 the Yankees went .255/.337/.412.
O.K. so what’s the big deal about 2001 anyway? Well, the Bronx Bombers hired Gary Denbo as their hitting coach that year. It was his only year in that role with the Yankees.
Also of note, when Denbo was the minor league hitting coordinator (beginning in 1997), in 1999 the Yankees hit 193 HR, in 2000 they hit 205 HR, the year he was with the parent club they hit 203 HR and he was gone. After that the Yankees hit 223, 230, 242 and 229 HR from 2002-2005. I’m not sure whether this is a legitimate data point but it is food for thought.
On THT last week I wrote an article that showed how far below league norms most of the regulars were hitting--especially with RISP. I stated:
The Blue Jays are getting .258/.328/.359; 4 HR 29 RBI production out their No. 3 hitters (the AL average is .264/.350/.430; 10 HR 41 RBI) and are receiving .272/.344/.416; 7 HR 34 RBI production from the cleanup spot (AL: .275/.352/.445; 10 HR 41 RBI). How bad is that? Well, a league-average eight-hole hitter hits about as well as a Blue Jays three-hole (hitter) and an AL average 6-7 hitter (somewhere between those two averages) is what the Jays are getting from their cleanup spot. Put another way, take two hitters from the bottom third of an AL average team and that’s what Toronto is using 3-4 in the lineup.
Getting back to the analogy used at the beginning—several people dying within a short time period may be coincidence, but when it keeps happening it becomes obvious something else is at play. Random variations in things like hitting with RISP/clutch hitting and the like happen at times. However, what are the odds that almost the entire lineup suffers from the same malady at precisely the same time? ... In big situations the Jays strike out, hit ground balls at infielders, lazy fly balls and pop ups. To use one example, the Blue Jays are hitting .215/.256/.446 with the bases loaded, while the other 13 teams in the AL are batting .300/.362/.467. With RISP the Jays are hitting .233/.327/.325 with 32 GIDP; the other 13 AL teams are batting .269/.365/.412 averaging about 20 GIDP.
That’s not a slump—that’s a disease. A disease of collective ineptitude.
In the article I used the analogy of a well with poisonous water. Something that affected pretty much everyone. When something like that occurs it’s generally not a coincidence but there’s a root cause behind it. Yes, it could be that the Yankees sub par (by their standards) offensive season between 1996-2007, not to mention being below league average in hitting with RISP with Denbo as hitting coach is a coincidence, but what if it happens again?
The Jays’ offense underachieved in 2007 and most felt it would rebound a bit this year with Vernon Wells and Lyle Overbay healthy coupled with Alex Rios and Aaron Hill’s continued progress. However it completely bottomed out this year--the same year that Denbo became hitting coach.
That’s too much of a coincidence.
Getting back to Wilner for a moment, he’s skeptical that a batting coach can have that much influence on a team but obviously I disagree. Two teams underachieve offensively, two teams below league average with RISP, both teams were the only ones to employ Denbo as a major league hitting coach … is there a pattern?
I’m guessing yes.
Best Regards
John
